OK here's a question......

[bluemerrage]

well, im too far.

[madameregi]

Distance is irrelevant to matters of the heart blue! When you find your intended, you will go to the ends of the Earth, win her over and bring her basck with you as your wife!!!

[laine175]

I understand that time in a relationship is of course an element....you fall in love with a person not an age....and I get that....I have no wish to judge anyone who answers...but having been in three..... I feel fairly serious relationships with younger guys, each one ended because ultimately they wanted children...I am still great friends with all of them and wish them the best....just wondered if that was so important to guys that in the end it can cause the breakdown of an otherwise good relationship.....

I respect your honesty and answers and thank you for being brave enough to respond....

[bluemerrage]

im enough with my adopted children. enough with my niece and relatives.

having a good life is a blessing
with a matured wife is a dream come true

good life, matured wife and children is the best dream to ever had.

ill stick with a dream that come true, im just being real. I should not expect more than everything.

god give me 2 arms so i can i hugged one person at a time. theres a lot of way to have children. leaving a gf because he realize he want a kids a pretty much unaccepteable excuse. because right in the beginning he knew what kind of relationship he is going. And he is not a kid anymore.

Troy's best qoutes:

Hector: You say you're willing to die for love but you know nothing about dying and you know nothing about love!

Messenger Boy: Are the stories true? They say your mother was an immortal godess. They say you can't be killed.
Achilles: I wouldn't be bothering with the shield then, would I?
Messenger Boy: The Thesselonian you're fighting... he's the biggest man i've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him.
Achilles: Thats why no-one will remember your name.

Thetis: If you stay in Larissa, you will find peace. You will find a wonderful woman, and you will have sons and daughters, who will have children. And they'll all love you and remember your name. But when your children are dead, and their children after them, your name will be forgotten... If you go to Troy, glory will be yours. They will write stories about your victories in thousands of years! And the world will remember your name. But if you go to Troy, you will never come back... for your glory walks hand-in-hand with your doom. And I shall never see you again.

sometimes theres a guy who never care to have a children anymore. They will be brave enough to face their fear, even the fear of leaving without siblings.

[jasonm519]

"Cougars" are people too. Age is only a number, it doesn't necessarily define who you are. If you love someone, you love them. True love should be unconditional. Basicly, if you want kids then chances are you won't get them with a "cougar". Now if you truly love each other and you both wanted kids, then there are other options out there(adoption, surrogate mother).

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you truly love someone, then you wouldn't chose having kids with a possibly lesser person over them. You would work something out or do without. Age shouldn't be a factor in this really, some young women can't have kids either. Either you love someone or you don't.

Here's a question, would any of you women be willing to look to surrogate mother's or adoption if your man really wanted kids?

As I have stated before, I'm not looking for anything. So these are just my thoughts on the matter.




p.s. I'm back!

[laine175]

Glad you made it back from the wilds Jason!!! and thanks for your response...I agree love should mean you wouldn't choose....but to let go of that natural need to reproduce and become immortal through producing another life is very strong....But I love your reasoning and thats what gives me hope that a relationship could work.....

[jasonm519]

Originally Posted by laine175

Glad you made it back from the wilds Jason!!! and thanks for your response...I agree love should mean you wouldn't choose....but to let go of that natural need to reproduce and become immortal through producing another life is very strong....But I love your reasoning and thats what gives me hope that a relationship could work.....

Well optimally, if you really felt the need to reproduce, surrogate would be the best bet. It seems to me, if she loved you just as much, she'd be willing to let a surrogate happen. Or maybe some crazy future procedure, they could clone the one you love, a cell of it, and form egg cells that could be fertlized and then placed into a surrogate which would result in a child that is of both the man and the woman in a relationship.

[sonia]

I for one would not be interested in surrogacy or even adoption - possibly if I was younger - but I have raised children and don't want to raise anymore really. It is not just a question of having a child but of raising it - many women in their 50's or later do not want to start with child rearing all over again.
It is a very idealistic view that love 'conquers all' and should be unconditional: in reality I think there are so many factors involved in relationships that will influence whether they can survive long-term or not

[jasonm519]

Originally Posted by sonia

I for one would not be interested in surrogacy or even adoption - possibly if I was younger - but I have raised children and don't want to raise anymore really. It is not just a question of having a child but of raising it - many women in their 50's or later do not want to start with child rearing all over again.
It is a very idealistic view that love 'conquers all' and should be unconditional: in reality I think there are so many factors involved in relationships that will influence whether they can survive long-term or not

Well as I said, either you'd find a way to make having a kid work or you simply wouldn't have one. I just think if you truly loved someone and you couldn't find a way to convince them to raise a kid with you, it'd be a mistake to leave them. Well not a mistake but a huge gamble. While I agree mostly with what you said, I still feel not that love should be unconditional, but that TRUE love is unconditional, which can be both bad and good. You made some good points though and I appreciate your opinion on the matter.

[laine175]

I agree with Sonia it's not so much about not being able to have them....I couldn't have kids from the age of 31....it's about not wanting them anymore I have raised three and they still keep coming back!!! I couldn't/wouldn't want to do it all again!! But I appreciate your points.....