1st move

[greg22]

why dont girls make the first move? they all seem to expect guys to go up to them and ask them out. This sucks especially for all the shy good guys out there (like me) I know its not good, my new years res is to get over the fear of being rejected, but its easyer said than done, I seem to freeze when I get close to a girl. But anyways, I seem to allways see nothing but guys standing alone watching a dance floor packed with nothing buy women, and when a guy trys to dance with one, they seem to get rejected.

Bcoz it's the nature of girl.They have some hesitation to ask guys to go out.

Why are there so many little boys in this forum chattering incessantly about GIRLS? Why are you here? In case you didn't notice the sign on the door, this site is for young men who want to date older women.

I better plan on moving to a different area to spot cougars.

[haberdasher]

Okay, why is it not flattering if a cougar approaches a cub? We are not going to say, "ewww." A related question: why is it always about the female being flattered, and not about the male being flattered? Don't we need to be flattered too?

The "eww" effect depends on the person, that is a gamble so yes, one must assume that the "eww" effect will rear its ugly head.

Heck, if I was approached by one, I'd buy her a coffee and talk with her to see what happens next.

[whillow]

(A related question: why is it always about the female being flattered, and not about the male being flattered? Don't we need to be flattered too?)

Approach that cougar and, if she is interested, she will definitely flatter you more than her much younger counterpart.

You are the man get over it. Regardless if the woman is older or younger you have to be man enough to go for what you want. Part of the dating game is that you will get rejected. You take it like a man and move on. And if you are having that hard of a time then you need to seek some help. It is kind of scary alot of the men nowdays who think that they don't have to work for anything including obtaining a woman. get real.

[haberdasher]

Frankly, no--getting rejected is only part of the game if you choose to accept those rules. They may be the standard rules, part of the "standard" game, but part of what the members of this site advocate is rejecting the standard rules of dating and courtship. Quite bluntly, if I am going to follow the old "guy gets repeatedly kicked in the teeth until he lands the fair maiden" rule, then why not go after an 18-year-old bimbo and keep up the tired old archetype like a "good boy" does. Get real.

[seansc]

petwolf youre an idiot.
A guy will never get an "ewwwww" from an older woman but an older women who hits on a younger guy has a big chance of getting an "ewwww" because most young guys like older women.
women have to take a risk and guys dont have to. so guys go to girls. stop being a wuss about it and deal with it. stop complaining about it because it is not going to change.