The Martyr aka The Victim

[i_sing_4u]

I already can see the cannons loading as I think of what to write to soften the message....but there just isn't any way....so I'll just SAY it.

We have a boatload of bitter, angry, defensive, controlling, entitled, whining Sensitive Sues on this site....and I'm NOT talking about just the ladies!

OK ...the ladies have been around on this planet for several decades...some of us for over a half century ***cough*** Many of us have seen our best friends and family members murdered or fall victim to a fatal disease or accident. We've been through fires, earthquakes, hurricanes...and gave birth to children, some of whom are older than most of you men! Some of us have known poverty, but rose above it all to give back.

On the other hand...the young men on this site haven't lived long enough to see what we have seen. Therefore, they shouldn't be expected to think or respond like us. In fact...they probably never will...because they are MEN.

Wait...that sounds sexist...I know it...but I was talking about the lovely differences between men and women.

I think that's why we love them, don't we? I wanted to say something else, but I'll probably get in trouble LOL

[bigglesworth]

Vent it all Val, don't let it stand in your way.

I have to laugh at a lot of what is going on and let it roll off my back like water on a duck's back........remember I said duck.

Anyway, in the sense that there is a lot of life between us and the men on this site is true, therefore you have to remember that you are dealing with people that have less life experiences. Not a bad thing, but on the other hand we have ourselves become cynical because we've had to deal with a lot of them that are rude and downright mean.

Now it blurs our perception of who is nice and who isn't. I agree there are women that are so insecure that they have to be controlling an conniving and that is sad, but that is the way of the world, these days......unfortunately. And they have whispered into the ears of most of the guys here and twisted their way of thinking about the rest of us.

But Alas, there is no moral here except, to do unto other that you want others to do unto you.

[redfyre]

Originally Posted by bigglesworth

I agree there are women that are so insecure that they have to be controlling an conniving and that is sad, but that is the way of the world, these days......unfortunately. And they have whispered into the ears of most of the guys here and twisted their way of thinking about the rest of us.

So, are you saying that if a man on this forum has a beef with any of the women on the forum, it could not possibly be because he has a genuine grievance with her (or a perceived grievance), but because he is so naive and gullible that that someone else has manipulated him into falsely believing he has a grievance?

That implies you think the men on here aren't too bright if they are so easily duped.

[bigglesworth]

Some of them aren't that bright. We are talking about men that are in their late teens and twenties. A human brain isn't even fully developed until around age 25.

Do yes, I do believe that a lot of the young men can be easily duped as you say. They are very impressionable when they are at those ages.

There are some that are wiser and more mature beyond theirs years, but for the most part, they do not have the wisdom and life experiences that they need to deal with an older woman.

If they did, then why is there so much dissent and bickering on here?

I believe and you can disagree if you like that a lot of the young men are swept away by what other women tell them. It's that trust in women that does that.

I like younger men too, but have found that the ones that I have dealt with are not as adept at discerning what is fact from fiction.

If they were they would not be asking where we gather, like we are a herd, or what do you say to an older women, etc.

Just my humble opinion, and I am sure you will not agree.

[violet]

Is there a point to this thread?

[i_sing_4u]

Originally Posted by violet

Is there a point to this thread?

Violet I think I was just frustrated by a lot of things in my own personal life, as well as the frequently caustic nature of this site. I just started writing, not knowing where it was going I guess. I figured that comments from other people might bring some reason into my currently chaotic thoughts.

That's why I'm going to Michigan for a couple weeks....the scent of barn hay helps me to think! LOL

[4020]

This stupid effing computer...

I am slightly older than most of the boys here. The 20s were rough for me for many reasons. With all I lived through I do my best not to complain or snivel. If anything is helps me to gain insight.

There is a quite a bit of sniveling and bickering here. And often yes it goes beyond the differences in how male and female view things. The first thing to remember is neither way is wrong it is different.

I think that some of the boys here cream their pants at the notion of and older woman. I think they sometimes forget her true value as a person and creature of beauty. By beauty I am talking more than just physical. I wont discount physical, but life experiences, wisdom learned, grace and je ne sais quoi that contributes to who they are.

I think we sometimes forget that person on the other end of the computer is a real person with real feelings and experiences. I also realize there are times to log off and take a walk.

[bayridgebabe]

Well said 4020, well said (shaking hands with 4020 & giving him a GREAT big HUG). That's the point you are a MATURE man & most of these guys are little boys & haven't a clue how to act or what to say to us older women. FIRST idea here, how would you like someone to speak to you own mother, second is how would you like someone to talk to your mother & third is how would you like someone to act towards you own mother fourth how would you like it if someone did talk, type, text or say any nasty, sexual or downright nasty things to your own mother? If you can't respect us the way you would want your own mother to be respected then DON'T even bother to talk to me (us). "just saying" & giving MHO here

[4020]

I have a sister who is in her late 40s. Bayridge that is excellent advise... I would never talk to my mom or sister in a manner of disrespect. My sister would kick my tail so hard. I try to extend it to those beyond family.

And I'd hug you for a loooonng time.

Yes there is quite an age spread in my family. I am glad my parents didn't name me Whoops.

[chilledice]

meh ive never really liked my mother!

JOKING obviously lol i think the world of her