"starting a relationship with the thinking that it isnt forever is just defeatist"
Of course; if you're involved and interested you give 100% effort. Having said that, awareness that
"forever" is a possibility but not a certainty isn't defeatist. I think that kind of awareness actually encourages us to cherish each other even more, and not to take anything or anyone for granted.
Yeah wetnwild, I agree: piper seems like he's really got his head screwed on tight
